15/9/2023 0 Comments Be Eircode "Where Aware"Those responsible for organisational health & safety, for safety infrastructure & those who provide emergency responce MUST take more care and be more "Where Aware" when it comes to Eircode ..... Where does it point to & Where does it lead to? Check both Location & Routing before having to rely on it especially in an emergency! The Eircode shown both on the above Defib Cabinet and in the tweet is not at the Castleblayney Hurling Pitch. In fact, the Pitch has NO Eircode. We responded to the tweet raising concerns but without reply. The image above encapsulates everything we have been warning about when it comes to Eircode:-
Yet, the Department of Communications, Capita, who run Eircode, and An Post, who support the whole thing by the provision of their addressing system GeoDirectory, for more than 7 years have collectively failed to warn of these known issues and encourage the Public to be more Eircode "Where Aware" by checking their codes. Our last article on this matter here refers to the answer to a Parliamentary Question by Minister Eamon Ryan, who is responsible for Eircode, on 11th July last where he admits issues with Eircode and, therefore, that it can cause misrouting. Yet, the Public and, in this case, Castleblayney Hurling Club and the owner of the property who's Eircode they are using, have not been made aware of these issues and encouraged to check things thoroughly before relying on an Eircode for any aspect of emergency response. It is equally worrying that response agencies involved in identifying the location of the Defib and undertaking related Community Response have themselves not yet taken time to understand the issues and warn the Public either. Some of you might suggest that sure wont the Eircode shown get someone into the right area and the instructions in the tweet will make it clear that the Defib is in the Hurling Pitch. Unfortunately, this may be true for some very few but, as the marketing about Eircode has been that it is always unquestionably "precise", it has become the norm to communicate Eircodes without supporting address information or instructions. Eircode (Capita) encourage people to blindly put an Eircode into Google Maps or other and navigate to it. In this case, that would lead to the user ending up in the driveway of a private house;- maybe desperately searching around the building in the darkness of night for a Defib which would not only delay the use of the Defib to save someone's life but it could also also potentially cause an altercation between the property owner and the unwanted visitors. Of course, Community First Responders or an ambulance intended for the property at the Eircode shown could also misrouted to the wrong property. When the impression has been promoted that Eircode is precise without question;- responders are not prepared to consider the other possibilities and this is likely to cause confusion and delays. The notion that the "nearest Eircode" will do, as is now being widely suggested by State Agencies involved with and using Eircode, undermines the notion of precision imagined for the national postcode and belies the claim that it is the panacea for emergency response. To address you directly Minister Ryan (who under the terms of the Postal Act must control the "appropriate" non postal service use of the national postcode) it is clear from your PQ answers and other information, that you are very much aware of the issues with Eircode. Therefore, if you do not take urgent action to advise and guide the Public in order to avoid very predictable potential adverse outcomes associated with its use (misuse), it is inevitable that you and your Departmental Staff and their contractors will be held directly responsible. As for the Castleblayney Hurling Club, none of this is their fault. They have been badly advised and are the unsuspecting victims of misinformation. They need to be more "Where Aware" and take another look at the solution for them. They can feel free to contact us at www.checkyourcode.ie for free and professional advice.
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We have been made aware of yet another case of Eircode misrouting where an ambulance was delayed as a result. For this reason, we have added a new "Point 5" to our list for checking an Eircode here -/> On the afternoon of the 3rd November last, we received a call from a lady who had called an ambulance for her father a few days earlier but the ambulance was delayed as a result of Eircode misrouting. She made contact with us to confirm she could use a Loc8 Code when calling for an ambulance in the future. In this case, Google Maps had been corrected to include a short private driveway;- so if she had done our check and had not read our NewsBlog articles she would have assumed misrouting could not take place. However, there was another road running along a different side of her house from which there was no driveway but it was closer. CoPilot, which the ambulance service uses, did not have the corrected driveway to the house, so the ambulance ended up on the closer road from which there was no access to their patient and no visibility to or from the house. This caused a delay until all realised that there had been a misrouting error. For that reason, our new Point 5. states as follows: "5. If there is a road shown on Google Maps between your road access & your house, this road may not be on other mapping systems such as "CoPilot" which the ambulance service uses. If there is another road on the maps closer to your house than your own road access then, misrouting could occur and, therefore, you should also create & use a Loc8 Code to be safe. As different emergency responders and other service providers use different Navigation systems with different map suppliers, it is not possible to check them all. For that reason, best to be safe & use a Loc8 Code." In addition, because the actual access to this property from the road is very narrow and bordered on 2 sides by other houses, even with a Loc8 Code generated just inside the access point, there could still be doubt. For that reason we would recommend Confirmation Signage at the gate which would say "Access to Eircode &/or Loc8 Code xxxxxxxxx" This would remove any possibility of doubt amongst the paramedics navigating the ambulance. Confirmatory signage like this is very useful in navigation and is highly recommended where there might be any doubt. The responsibility for this kind of confirmation is on the property owner;- not the paramedics or other service providers trying to find them. It is extremely regrettable that those behind Eircode are not even warning the public about the possibility of errors or misrouting;- let alone advising how to check and resolve issues before they happen and cause risk to public safety. If you need any clarifications on any of this, please contact us here -/> Misrouting of vehicles, including ambulances and 1st responders, by Eircode has been reported for many years now. New examples keep being reported through social media and that means there are many more that go unreported. The above image is from a post a few days ago in boards.ie and is just one more of many many examples. Those who report Eircode mis-routing in relation to deliveries do not always realise that the very same could happen if an ambulance is trying to find them........ ;- but with potentially life and death related consequences. Even though Eircode & the Department of Communications promote their product through Public Service Announcements (PSA's) on RTE for ambulance emergency response, they continue to fail to take any responsibility when a misrouting report raises the possibility of an ambulance being led astray and delayed. They also have taken no steps to warn the public about this well documented issue. Eircode misrouting is predictable and can be avoided. It is explained in detail in our post here -/> We are aware that in previous cases Capita personnel have advised those reporting the issue to contact Google Maps to get them to help solve the problem (not always possible or timely). Not only have they not admitted that by simply moving the location of the Eircode themselves they could resolve the problem, they also fail to advise those with the problem that even if they get the problem solved in Google Maps, the issue may well remain for ambulances as they use a different mapping system (CoPilot - Trimble Maps). Furthermore, other service providers may be using Garmin/Navigon, TomTom or other navigation/map systems which all would have to be contacted to fully (though possibly temporarily) correct a problem which Eircode created and could solve themselves. Unfortunately, Eircode will not do as required to resolve the matter as the An Post design specifications for Eircode limit what the code can point to. The quickest solution for those experiencing Eircode mis-routing is to generate a Loc8 Code for the access to the desired property using the web-app here -/> Then create a sign with the Loc8 Code on it and place for all to see - guidelines for displaying Eircodes or Loc8 Codes are here -/> It is important to understand that the National Ambulance Service has fully integrated Loc8 Code into their systems side-by-side with Eircode since 2017. If you are reading this post, please #checkyourcode , advise others to do so also and please do it for those who can't. We are very happy to help and you can make contact with us here -/> 19/9/2022 Fixing Eircode Misrouting in Google Maps May not Fix the Problem for theĀ Ambulance ServiceEvidence of Eircode misrouting continues and neither the Dept of Communications nor Eircode (Capita) are warning the Public about it. We know that people who notice that their Eircode is not in Google Maps are being told by Eircode to contact Google themselves. People are not being told to check for misrouting and our last post shows that at least one person received an admission from an advisor to Minister Hildegarde Naughton that Eircode can have problems (misrouting) when used in navigation systems but, again, their advice is to contact the mapping or navigation company yourself to sort it out. We have already highlighted how this is an abdication of responsibility by those responsible for Eircode so let's leave that for now. What is more important to highlight is that if you manage to solve misrouting in Google Maps by communicating with Google itself, that DOES NOT address the possibility of misrouting for the Ambulance Service. The Ambulance Service uses the "CoPilot" navigation system in its data terminals in response vehicles. This DOES NOT use Google Maps. It instead uses Trimble Maps. So if a misrouting issue exists in that, then it will remain. You can try contact Trimble Maps here -/> Of course, logistics companies and other 1st responders may well use other solutions using other mapping systems which would all have to be contacted individually to try ensure nobody trying to find your property is led astray by Eircode induced misrouting. It is important to understand that not everyone uses Google Maps and that professionals whose work involves road navigation very often have dedicated systems suitable for their differing needs. Furthermore, this does not take into account that there may be several different access points to your location with only one appropriate for different service providers or at different times of the day. Contacting all the mapping companies in the world will never resolve this. The only solution would be to be able to move the location of an Eircode so that it can positively identify the required access point. However, the rules enforced by An Post over the use of Eircode prevent that from happening. It should also be noted that even if you do make contact with every mapping company and they agree to help, it can take time (months) for them to apply corrections, then to disseminate them in their databases, then for navigation companies to apply updates and then for the user to ensure their product is updated as well. Meanwhile, those serving you will still be misrouted whilst all that is going on. An immediate solution is to use a Loc8 Code which can be placed just inside the desired access from the nearest mapped public road and no matter what mapping is used, the service provider or emergency responder will always be guided to the correct access point. If there is any ambiguity at that point then the property owner simply has to put up a sign confirming arrival at the correct Eircode or Loc8 Code or Property name and perhaps adding a directional arrow to the sign if required to guide the way to the final destination. Property occupiers do have to take some responsibility in that regard. You can generate a Loc8 Code for any location at this link and, after clicking on the desired spot and generating a Loc8 Code, by pressing the "Route" option you can also prove that the routing will guide to the right location. Loc8 Code is fully integrated into the response systems of the National Ambulance Service side-by-side with Eircode. Loc8 Code offers a FREE WebApp which can be used on multiple devices. In summary, please do not assume that if you manage to solve misrouting in Google Maps that that is the end of misrouting issues. The problem may still remain for Ambulances, other emergency responders and others trying to get to you. However, at least if you are aware of the problem you have some chance of resolving it. It remains that fact, though, that many are not aware because they have not been warned by those behind Eircode. All of the Department of Communications, their Minister and Eircode (Capita) know that the problem exists but to date have chosen not to warn the public to check their code for misrouting or other issues. Regrettably, we are yet again reporting another recent case of an ambulance being delayed as a result of Eircode. We have investigated the cause and have confirmed that this is another case of Eircode misrouting. Firstly, let us assure readers that in spite of the related delay, the woman involved is recovering well thanks to the expert work of National Ambulance Service paramedics when they got to her. We wish her a speedy recovery and congratulate her son for all that he did to ensure his mother got quick medical care. This misrouting issue was caused once again by the fact that Eircode simply identifies a location and does not take into account the route by which that location can be accessed - i.e. it gives no clue as to where the access is and, due to inflexibility of design, cannot be adjusted to do that. In this case, the navigation mapping used by the Ambulance Service calculated a route via the nearest mapped road on its system to the Eircode location. This is how navigation systems normally work. There was no access from this location and, therefore, paramedics then had to go through a process of checking if they have the right code and finding a different way to it;- all using up valuable time. Time, as you know, is absolutely critical when it comes to a stroke patient. Capita PLC, which trades in Ireland under its registered business name of Eircode, has admitted in email exchanges that Eircode has no routing capability and then proceeds to suggest how multiple international mapping & navigation companies can be contacted by the property owner to ask them to resolve the issue. This of course suggests that the problem is with those companies and not Eircode. Let us spell it out again.................................................... those companies DO NOT CLAIM in a Public Service Announcement broadcast, at license payer's expense on RTE networks every year during January to March since 2016 (broadcast just finished for this year), that their product "may help an ambulance find you faster." Those companies acknowledge that their routing solutions can be sometimes less than perfect due to variations and inaccuracies in mapping. However, none of them designed a National Postcode over the period 2005 to 2014, with a current cost to the Irish exchequer of over €50M;- completely ignoring what is navigation industry knowledge and without reference to navigation experts. Furthermore, those companies have not ignored multiple well documented requests that Eircode should warn people of possible errors in their codes with the possibility of misrouting and encourage them to check their code at least once before relying on it in an emergency. Not only has the Department of Communications & Eircode (Capita PLC) ignored requests to include the warning in their adverts, in a response to a letter to them in 2021 on the subject, the Head of the Eircode Division in the Department of Communications, Mr. Ben King, implied that misrouting did not occur because the Ambulance Service uses Ordnance Survey Mapping. There are three aspects to this response & inherent implication as follows:-
There are short, medium and long term solutions to this misrouting issue which can be applied (some here on our site) BUT the very 1st step is for all those behind Eircode to start admitting that there is a problem and to warn the public about it. There is a quick short term solution which is already supported by the Ambulance Service and mentioned on this website. Very simply put, if the Eircode advert broadcast as a Public Service Announcement Free of Charge on RTE over the last 8 weeks had included a simple warning to the Public to check their codes and to use this website to help them do it, then this incident of Eircode misrouting could have been avoided. Likewise, this misrouting incident which also happened this February could also have been avoided. RTE has also been advised of this issue but has chosen not to apply any due diligence to the nature of advertisements broadcast on their networks as Public Service Announcements. It is RTE's assertion that once a Government agency tells them to broadcast something as a Public Service Announcement, they will do it without applying any oversight criteria. It is not good enough that Eircode (Capita PLC) and the Eircode Division in the Department of Communications is not warning people of this problem but it is also not good enough that they are not ensuring new & corrected Eircodes get to Google Maps in a timely manner either. This means that 1st responders do not know that if they are using Google Maps, a new Eircode may not be there at all or, if a correction has been undertaken by Eircode to adjust the location of a code, this also may not have been applied in Google Maps causing them to be guided to the wrong location. In the last week, two newspaper articles have confirmed that An Post's post men and women cannot use Eircode to deliver letters;- something that was established by then Deputy Hildegarde Naughton as Chair of the Oirecahtas Communications Committee in 2017/18. She did nothing and told no one about this at the time. The issue of Eircode misrouting has been raised since 2015 and we continue to hear of new examples where ambulances are delayed and patients put at risk but the same Hildegarde Naughton TD, who is now the Minister with Responsibility for Eircode, is not doing anything about that either. We at checkyourcode.ie have the expertise to help solve these problems and are more than willing to help the National Ambulance Service & Public representatives make it happen. Please let us do this together before someone loses their life as a result.
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